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  • Utahnite 8:07 pm on June 30, 2015 Permalink |
    Tags: 2015, , , , , , , , , , , , , meeting June, ,   

    Glenn Beck Hangs Out With The Bigot & Little Factory/Masturbation Obsessed LDS/Mormon Apostle Boyd K. Packer! Why?! DISGRACEFUL! 

    Packer & Glenn Beck Meeting-6-30-2015

    Maybe Glenn Beck was meeting with this confirmed BIGOT in order to get some pointers on his “LITTLE FACTORY” or curious why masturbation & interracial marriages are so evil? Or maybe how God could NEVER make a mistake & make someone gay or a hermaphrodite..how pathetic is this! You are who you worship & hang out with Glenn..get some new friends..you’re embarrassing yourself!!

     
  • Utahnite 7:43 pm on June 30, 2015 Permalink |
    Tags: 1st Presidency, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Jeffrey R. Holland. Russell M Nelson, , , letter, M. Russell Ballard, , , , , , read to all members, , The First Presidency, ,   

    LDS/Mormon 1st/First Presidency Letter On Supreme Court Decision Regarding Gay Marriage, Confirming Their Hate & Bigotry!! 

    1st Presidency letter-6-30-2015

    Here is the text of this leaked letter, to be read this Sunday, July 5 or July 12, somewhere outside of Sacrament meeting.(Trying to avoid tax exempt issues?) 

    This letter, with enclosure, is being translated and will be distributed to units identified as French and Spanish in the United States and Canada. Distribution in these languages will be complete within two weeks. If leaders need this letter in languages not listed above, they may contact the member of the Presidency of the Seventy who supervises the area. Area leaders can forward requests to Church headquarters (1-801-240-2933). 13782

    RESPONSE TO THE SUPREME COURT DECISION LEGALIZING SAME?SEX MARRIAGE IN THE UNITED STATES

    June 29, 2015

    Because of the recent decision of the United States Supreme Court and similar legal proceedings and legislative actions in a number of countries that have given civil recognition to same?sex marriage relationships, the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter?day Saints restates and reaffirms the doctrinal foundation of Church teachings on morality,marriage, and the family. As we do, we encourage all to consider these teachings in the context of the Plan of Salvation and our Heavenly Father’s purposes in creating the earth and providing for our mortal birth and experience here as His children. Marriage between a man and a woman was instituted by God and is central to His plan for His children and for the well?being of society. “God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth” (Genesis 1:27–28). “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24).

    Strong families, guided by a loving mother and father, serve as the fundamental institution for nurturing children, instilling faith, and transmitting to future generations the moral strengths and values that are important to civilization and vital to eternal salvation. A family built on marriage of a man and a woman is the best setting for God’s plan of happiness to thrive. That is why communities and nations generally have encouraged and protected marriage between a man and a woman, and the family that results from their union, as privileged institutions. Sexual relations outside of such a marriage are contrary to the laws of God pertaining to morality.

    Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God has established. God expects us to uphold and keep His commandments regardless of divergent opinions or trends in society. His law of chastity is clear: sexual relations are proper only between a man and a woman who are legally and lawfully wedded as husband and wife. We invite all to review and understand the doctrine contained in “The Family: A Proclamation to the World.”

    Consistent with our fundamental beliefs, Church officers will not employ their ecclesiastical authority to perform marriages between two people of the same sex, and the Church does not permit its meetinghouses or other properties to be used for ceremonies, receptions, or other activities associated with same?sex marriages. Nevertheless, all visitors are welcome to our chapels and premises so long as they respect our standards of conduct while there.

    The gospel of Jesus Christ teaches us to love and treat all people with kindness and civility—even when we disagree. We affirm that those who avail themselves of laws or court rulings authorizing same?sex marriage should not be treated disrespectfully. Indeed, the Church has advocated for rights of same?sex couples in matters of hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment, and probate, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches.

    The Church insists on its leaders’ and members’ right to express and advocate religious convictions on marriage, family, and morality free from retaliation or retribution. The Church is also entitled to maintain its standards of moral conduct and good standing for members.

    As members of the Church, we are responsible to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ and to illuminate the great blessings that flow from heeding God’s commandments as well as the inevitable consequences of ignoring them. We invite all to pray that people everywhere will have their hearts softened to the truths God established in the beginning, and that wisdom will be granted to those who are called upon to decide issues critical to society’s future.

    THE COUNCIL OF THE FIRST PRESIDENCY AND QUORUM OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

    I can’t wait to see their retraction or excuse someday, if there ever is one! Making these kind of statements, in the Internet age, puts them in a corner that they may never be able to get out of! Keep going boys..keep backing yourselves into that corner so you can NEVER escape!!

    All those millions spent for NOTHING..way to throw away the tithe payers money dumb asses! Hate & bigotry will NEVER win..something these bigots fail to understand or learn from!

     
  • Utahnite 7:41 am on June 16, 2015 Permalink |
    Tags: apostasy, apostate, , , , desperate, desperation, , failure, fiasco, , , , , Richard E. Turley Jr., The Boise Rescue   

    The Mormon Hierarchy’s “BOISE RESCUE” w/ Dallin H. Oaks & Richard E. Turley!! LOL!! 


    MP3 File

    OaksTurley

    An audio recording of a meeting held June 13th, 2015 in Boise, Idaho. Some are calling it, appropriately, “The Boise Rescue”, like the attempted, but failed rescue and fiasco they tried over in Sweden, where they embarrassed themselves and didn’t answer any questions.

    Dallin H Oaks and Richard E Turley Jr. spoke to a congregation about church history and apostasy.

    These type of attempts show just how pathetically desperate “the brethren” have become, in this time of great “apostasy”(Members leaving in droves because of THE TRUTH!), never seen since the days of Kirtland, according to Marlin K. Jensen. At least he was honest & then of course, promptly fired or I’m sorry, put on “emeritus status” immediately..LOL!

    Thank you Internet!!

    Please visit my Mormon Truth Interviews Podcast for more great audio like this. It’s also over on iTunes.

     
  • Utahnite 5:45 pm on November 30, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: 1976. General Conference, , , , Boyd, , , , , , , , , floored, hitting, , , , Little boys, , , message to young men, , October 1976. October 2, Packer, , , , , , , , , , The Little Factory, , To Young Men Only, , , violence   

    Boyd K. Packer’s Offensive, Perverted “To Young Men Only”(Little Factory) Talk Now EXPOSED On LDS.Org..Video, Audio & PDF Download Links! Get It While It Lasts!! Given At The General Conference October 2, 1976! 

    TO YOUNG MEN ONLY(THE “LITTLE FACTORY” TALK)-
    by Elder Boyd K. Packer(next in line to be the MORmON PROFIT): 

    LISTEN

    Downloads

    Video:

    Audio:

    Read:

     

    This info also posted on a dedicated page on EXMORMON RADIO!

     

    *ALL THE ABOVE LINKS ARE DIRECTLY FROM LDS.ORG.

     

     
  • Utahnite 1:07 pm on November 26, 2013 Permalink |  

    Confessions Of A Perverted MORmON Bishop!!(audio) 


    MP3 File

    *Please visit & subscribe to my Mormon Truth Interviews Podcast for this & many more great audio recordings:

    I first want to say THANK YOU to the anonymous person that recorded and published this great audio..it took real guts & helps to expose the sick, perverted nature of Mormon doctrine & their leaders!

    This Bishop is a complete disgrace and despicable human being!! Sounds a lot like my perverted, psycho, masturbation obsessed Mission President!! Now I have proof that what I always suspected is true..that his orders to be a sick pervert came straight from THE TOP!! They’re just “doing what they’re told to do”, right?!

    This is the sick, perverted attitude of the average Bishop or Stake President, who as he directly says, get their training from Seventies, who get their training from Apostles, right to the top, Thomas S. Monson, the Mormon Prophet of fraud and shame!

    This abuse of children by Mormon Leaders needs to end NOW!! 7-8 year old little kids? REALLY?

    I’ve known about this for a while now & spoken about it a lot(Listen to EX-MORMON RANT #1)..now we have ACTUAL RECORDED PROOF that it’s going on & MORMON DOCTRINE & TRAINING for the Bishops to do it, straight from Thomas S. Monson. THIS IS REQUIRED OF THEM FROM THE TOP!!

    The Bishop left out one type of sex abuser in his lengthy list of threats to children and probably the biggest one..MORMON BISHOPS & STAKE PRESIDENTS. Many have been convicted just over the last 8 years.

    Timothy McCleeve, Bishop of Harrisville, utah & the Stake President Clayton R. Hildreth, from Billings, Montana, who went by the name “Sexy Montana Gentleman,” when he was trying to pick up a 14 year old girl in Boise to have sex with her. Glad it was an undercover Boise police officer instead.

    They were waiting for him when he showed up, driving all the way to Boise from Montana, showing up with “three condoms, a gift of thong underwear and a digital camera.”

    Even a Seventy, George P. Lee, in the 80s was a pedophile(just “emulating the example”..as Thomas S. Monson teaches we should all do, of the original Mormon pedophile Joseph Smith Jr.) and his speeches are STILL posted on LDS.ORG, because Mormon Leaders support pedophiles & even command us to forgive them or we’re the bad guys & sinners..REALLY?!

    And those are only a few examples of the cases we know about..how many other cases are there that we haven’t even heard about yet, that have been covered up? I love how they always claim innocence & then admit they did it when the facts & witnesses surface.

    THAT is who we really need to protect our children from folks..MEN LIKE THIS MAN IN THE AUDIO & the other Bishops and Stake Presidents..SEXUAL PREDATORS using their “GOD” as the excuse to ask sexually probing questions of little kids as young as 7!!

    In fact, in the audio..he says we should start as young as 5-6..WOW! This is one sick S.O.B.!!

    Hopefully this great audio & the exposing of this SICK, PERVERTED Mormon Bishop will help to further expose the Mormon Cult in general & help put an end to this twisted, sick, perverted practice of asking sexually probing questions of little kids who don’t even know what the hell they’re talking about!

    THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS GREAT AUDIO?

    RESPONSE THOMAS S. MONSON?

    WE’LL BE WAITING!!

    *If anyone else has a story to tell about a Mormon Bishop, Stake President or higher and wants to expose them or even better, release audio of them..please visit MormonBishopsExposed.com and leave your comments. Thanks!

     
  • Utahnite 3:34 pm on November 20, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: , , blogs, , , , death, death penalties, doctrines, , , , , , history, http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/nov/19/man-kills-himself-outside-las-vegas-mormon-temple/#livefyreComments, kill, , killed himself, , , , , , , , , shot himself, , Temple, , , , , websites   

    Judge’s son, a 26 Year Old Man, Tragically Commits Suicide At The Mormon, Las Vegas Temple. MORmON Apologist “DietrStorrer” isn’t concerned..CHURCH IS TRUE..PRE-1990 MORMON TEMPLE DEATH PENALTIES NEVER EXISTED..WE’RE ALL LIARS!! 

    (Update..I just called the Las Vegas temple today & guess what, they were “BUSINESS AS USUAL, NO SCHEDULE CHANGES”..EXACTLY what I was told! So not even a day to show respect or mourn the dead..a man tragically commits suicide & the very next morning, the MORmON CULT worship goes on without missing a beat..NOT A SURPRISE!! SICKENING!!)

    This is my response to “DietrStorrer” over on the article on The Las Vegas Sun, about a 26 year old man, that tragically killed himself on the Las Vegas temple grounds with a gun.(while people were in the temple, doing their cult worship! I’m sure the next morning it was business as usual..think I’ll call them & see if the temple is open today) Bigmikesrt has been challenging “DietrStorrer” & I thought it was time I engage & come to his defense with FACTS & TRUTH! Thanks to my great friend Demon of Kolob for sending me this tragic story. I once had a friend that did the same exact thing, not long after he came depressed from his mission or as I say, his 2 years of paying to be a slave for the MORmON CULT HIEARARCHY or as Demon of Kolob says..”2 years in hell.”

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/nov/19/man-kills-himself-outside-las-vegas-mormon-temple/#livefyreComments

    DietrStorrer bigmikesrt,

    Wow DietrStorrer..((F)UchtDorf(K) fan or what?!)..are you the liar or are you just the uneducated fool, accusing those of us that actually know, to be the liars? Either way, it’s embarrassing for you & your sad little cult!(.020 of 1% of the world & shrinking..about 25% or .005 at most are even active!)

    And PLEASE DON’T ignorantly & offensively accuse me of not being a member, as you do everyone else, that is posing difficult questions and FACTS, as I still am, going back over 30 years, including a mission, BYU & a temple marriage about 10 years ago. I discovered THE TRUTH about the Mormon cult about 8.5 years ago..search my Internet sites, podcasts, blogs, etc.(Samuel the Utahnite)

    I was actually a best man at my best friend’s wedding in the Las Vegas temple in the 90s. So cut the “you were never a member” BS..it ain’t gonna fly with me & is a very poor defense & diversionary tactic from dealing with REALITY & TRUTH! Oh, also, I’m now an atheist, not someone trying to convert people to another church or my new belief system so let’s not go there either pal!

    I PERSONALLY went through the temple at least 20 times before the DEATH PENALTIES were removed in 1990. Bigmikesrt is 100% accurate and you are 100% WRONG! We have the facts, witnesses & evidence, you have…uh..well..NOTHING but your lying or ignorant words!

    When did you go through for the first time? If it was before 1990, you’re a liar & are purposely deceiving everyone, which is par for the course for Mormon Apologists. If you went through after 1990, then you’re just an uneducated fool with no desire for THE TRUTH or FACTS! Ignorance is bliss, right? Not in the Internet years, where TRUTH is just click away, if you care to find & seek it out! People here are actually trying to help educate you if you are the latter! The church is true, NO MATTER WHAT & NOTHING could EVER convince you otherwise, right? Start with that premise & work backwards to prove it(instead of standing on neutral ground, actually asking “is it false”)..using your “burning bosom” as the determining factor!

    Also, while we’re on the subject of the temple, did you ever wonder how Peter, James & John had physical bodies(shaking hands, etc), when they weren’t even born yet?(Don’t give me the “it was a Peter, James & John from another world”..LOL!) Or how Satan had a body to pick the apple of the tree & hand it to Adam & Eve, since Satan DOES not have a body? Isn’t that his big curse & what the result of the “war in heaven” was and something that he’ll suffer with for eternity? I guess NOTHING in the Mormon temple movie/ceremony is actually literal? Maybe it’s all BS and fantasy eh? The answer is yes, it is!

    I will now gladly educate you, with links to the audio & transcripts, so that you can listen & read for yourself. Ask your Bishop or Stake President or go to the temple & talk to the Temple President & ask him about the pre-1990 temple DEATH PENALTIES. Will he tell you they didn’t exist as you arrogantly & defiantly proclaim?

    Nope, he’ll most likely admit it(you’ll be shocked if you honestly don’t know about them, which I seriously doubt!) & attempt to explain them as just some type of motivation for people to keep their temple covenants & never meant to be taken literally. People took them literally, EXACTLY the way they were meant to be taken! It’s called ruling by FEAR & THREATS, which is what cults do!

    So thanks to either your blatant & deceitful lies or sad ignorance(I personally can’t stand lies or willful ignorance..one of which applies to you!), you’ve motivated me to take the time, to share THE TRUTH & FACTS with everyone!

    I’m now going to post the links for EVERYONE to the pre-1990 temple ceremony, comparison between the pre-1990 & now current ceremony, including where women had to make an oath to OBEY THEIR HUSBANDS & then I’ll expose the actual death penalty script & sections from the SECRET, NOT SACRED, pre-1990 temple ceremony that you claim NEVER happened and I’ll therefore let people come to their own conclusions, BASED ON FACTS & TRUTH:

    THE LAW OF OBEDIENCE

    NARRATOR: Brethren and sisters, this couple at the altar represents all of you as if at the altar. You must consider yourselves as if you were respectively Adam and Eve.

    ELOHIM: We will put the sisters UNDER COVENANT TO OBEY THE LAW OF THEIR HUSBANDS. Sisters, arise.

    (Female patrons stand as instructed.)

    ELOHIM: Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you SOLEMNLY COVENANT and PROMISE BEFORE GOD, ANGELS AND THESE WITNESSES at this altar that you will each observe and KEEP THE LAW OF YOUR HUSBANDS, and abide by his counsel in righteousness. Each of you BOW YOUR HEAD AND SAY “YES.”

    WOMEN: YES.

    ELOHIM: That will do.

    (The female patrons now resume their seats.)

    THE FIRST TOKEN OF THE AARONIC PRIESTHOOD

    ELOHIM: We will now give unto you the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. Before doing this, however, we desire to impress upon your minds the sacred character of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY, as well as that of all the other tokens of the Holy Priesthood, with their names, signs, and PENALTIES, which you will receive in the temple this day. They are most sacred, and are guarded by solemn covenants and OBLIGATIONS OF SECRECY to the effect that under no condition, EVEN AT THE PERIL OF YOUR LIFE, will you ever divulge them, except at a certain place that will be shown you hereafter. The representation of the EXECUTION OF THE PENALTIES INDICATED DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH LIFE MAY BE TAKEN.

    ELOHIM: This is the sign. THE EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY IS REPRESENTED by PLACING THE THUMB UNDER THE LEFT EAR, the palm of the hand down, and by DRAWING THE THUMB QUICKLY ACROSS THE THROAT TO THE RIGHT EAR, and dropping the hand to the side.(THROAT SLITTING!)

    I will now explain the covenant and obligation of SECRECY which are associated with this token, its name, sign and PENALTY, and which YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE UPON YOURSELVES. If I were receiving my own Endowment today, and had been given the name of “John” as my New Name, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign at the same time REPRESENTING THE EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY:

    I, John, covenant that I will NEVER REVEAL the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. Rather than do so, I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN.

    (The Officiator demonstrates the execution of the penalty.)

    ELOHIM: All arise.

    (All patrons stand.)

    ELOHIM: Each of you make the sign of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, by bringing your right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers together, and the thumb extended. This is the sign. Now, repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant, at the same time representing THE EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY.

    I ________, think of the new name, covenant that I will never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. Rather than do so, I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN.

    That will do. (Patrons sit down.)

    SECOND TOKEN OF THE AARONIC PRIESTHOOD

    PETER: A couple will now come to the altar. (The witness couple kneels at the altar as before.) With the robe on the left shoulder, you are prepared to officiate in the ordinances of the Aaronic Priesthood. We will now give unto you the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. This Token is given by clasping the right hands and placing the joint of the thumb between the first and second knuckles of the hand, in this manner.

    (The Officiator and the male witness joins hands in the token, and slightly raise their hands to demonstrate in to the patrons.)

    PETER: We desire all to receive it. All arise.

    (As the Patrons stand, the witness couple returns to their seats, and various temple workers circulate about the room administering this token as they did the former.)

    PETER: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand. The name of this token is your own first given name if you are going through the temple for your own Endowment, or, if you are going through for the dead, it is the first given name of the person for whom you are officiating.

    The sign is made by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign. (The officiator demonstrates.) The EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY is represented by placing the RIGHT HAND ON THE LEFT BREAST, DRAWING THE HAND QUICKLY ACROSS THE BODY(SLICING OPEN YOUR CHEST), and dropping the hands to the sides. I will now explain the covenant and OBLIGATION OF SECRECY which are associated with this token, its name, sign, and PENALTY, and which you WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE UPON YOURSELVES.

    If I were receiving my own endowment today, and if my first given name were “David,” I would repeat in my mind those words, after making the sign, at the same time representing the EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY:

    I, David, covenant, that I will NEVER REVEAL the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. Rather than do so I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN.

    All arise. (All Patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign.

    Now, repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant, at the same time representing THE EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY.

    I, _________, think of the first given name, covenant, that I will never reveal the second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. Rather than do so, I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN. That will do.

    (All patrons sit down.)

    THE LAW OF SACRIFICE(couldn’t leave this out!)

    ELOHIM: Brethren and sisters, you are about to be put under covenant to obey and keep the Law of Sacrifice, as contained in the Old and New Testament. This Law of Sacrifice was given to Adam in the garden of Eden, who, when he was driven out of the garden, built an alter on which he offered sacrifices; and after many days, an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying: “Why dost thou offer sacrifice unto the Lord?” And Adam said unto him: “I know not, save the Lord commanded me.” And then the angel spake saying: “This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, which is full of grace and truth. Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou dost in the name of the Son, and thou shalt repent, and call upon God in the name of the Son forevermore.”

    The posterity of Adam down to Moses, and from Moses to Jesus Christ offered up the first fruits of the field, and the firstlings of the flock, which continued until the death of Jesus Christ, which ended sacrifice by the shedding of blood. And as Jesus Christ has laid down his life for the redemption of mankind, so WE SHOULD COVENANT TO SACRIFICE ALL THAT WE POSSESS, EVEN OUR OWN LIVES IF NECESSARY, IN SUSTAINING AND DEFENDING THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    All arise. Each of you bring your right arm to the square. YOU AND EACH OF YOU SOLEMNLY COVENANT AND PROMISE BEFORE GOD, ANGELS AND THESE WITNESSES AT THIS ALTER THAT YOU WILL OBSERVE AND KEEP THE LAW OF SACRIFICE, as contained in the Old and New Testament, as it has been explained to you. EACH OF YOUR BOW YOUR HEAD AND SAY “YES.”

    PATRONS: Yes.

    ELOHIM: That will do.

    (patrons resume their seats.)

    FIRST TOKEN OF THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD OR SIGN OF THE NAIL

    PETER: We will now give unto you the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, or the sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name, sign, and PENALTY. This token is received by bringing the right hand into this position: the hand vertical, the fingers close together, and the thumb extended; and the person giving the token placing the tip of the forefinger of his right hand in the center of the palm, and the thumb opposite on the back of the hand of the one receiving it, in this manner. We desire all to receive it. All arise.

    (After Officiator and male witness demonstrate token at the altar, temple workers circulate around room to administer this token to the patrons.)

    PETER: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand. Then name of this token is “the Son”, meaning the Son of God.

    The sign is made by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; the right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together, the thumb extended, and the THUMB IS PLACE OVER THE LEFT HIP. (The Officiator makes the sign.) This is the sign. The PENALTY IS REPRESENTED BY DRAWING THE THUMB QUICKLY ACROSS THE BODY AND DROPPING THE HANDS TO THE SIDES.(slicing open your stomach) (Officiator completes the action.)

    I will now explain the covenant and OBLIGATION OF SECRECY which are associated with this token, its name, sign and PENALTY, and which YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE UPON YOURSELVES. If I were receiving the Endowment today, either for myself or for the dead, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign, at the same time representing the EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY:

    I covenant in the name of the Son that I WILL NEVER REVEAL the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name, sign and PENALTY. RATHER THAN DO SO, I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN.

    All arise (All patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; also by bringing the right hand forward, the palm down, the fingers close together, the thumb extended, and by PLACING THE THUMB OVER THE LEFT HIP. This is the sign.

    Now repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant, at the same time representing the EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY:

    I covenant in the name of the Son that I will NEVER REVEAL the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name, sign and PENALTY. RATHER THAN DO SO, I WOULD SUFFER MY LIFE TO BE TAKEN.

    (Patrons perform the action as the Officiator guides them.)

    That will do. (All patrons sit down.)

    ————————————————-

    So there you go folks..the Mormon temple DEATH PENALTIES that “NEVER EXISTED”, except they did, up until 1990 & I, my family & many friends witnessed them FIRST-HAND! Before the temple ceremony was changed to those death Penalties, it was far more horrific & graphic in nature. The penalties used in the 80s were very tame, yet still, understandably very upsetting to many, which is why they were removed. I apologize for any errors or typos, as I don’t have time to go back over everything that I typed..if there are any errors, they are errors of man..LOL!(sound familiar?! LOL!)

    Sorry this comment was sooo long, but when you’re having to expose blatant lies & deceit or willful ignorance, it’s pretty hard to do without all the evidence & facts to dispute them.

    So now, “DietrStorrer”..it is time for you to either come clean & admit the TRUTH & FACTS that you already knew or admit that you’ve been educated today & will now go study, return & report!

    Pre-1990 ceremony: http://www.lds-temple.net/index.php?page=1984

    1990 to now ceremony(current):  http://www.lds-temple.net/index.php?page=1990

    Comparison between the pre-1990 and the current ceremony..about EVERYTHING I posted above has now been removed from the WILL NEVER, EVER CHANGE, STRAIGHT FROM CHRIST, Mormon temple ceremony: http://www.lds-temple.net/index.php?page=compare

    Finally(check out the other links too, especially the initiatories, with the perverted & sick “naked touching” removed in 2005..another story for another day!), here is a link to the audio recording of the pre-1990 Mormon temple ceremony with the DEATH PENALTIES, for those that want to hear it for themselves:

    http://www.lds-temple.net/1984temple.mp3

    The current, sanitized Mormon temple ceremony video is now available on YouTube for all to see:

     
  • Utahnite 3:02 pm on November 14, 2013 Permalink |  

    Why Is The Mormon Prophet Thomas Monson, First Presidency & Apostles, This Week, recklessly Sending 3 Sisters Back Into The Rape Capital Of The World, South Africa, After The Horrific And Brutal Attack And Gang Rape Of Mormon Missionary Sisters Back In 2006?! 

    Let’s see if we can expose this horrific event & decision, embarrass the MORmON Hierarchy publicly & get them to change their minds. This is a very serious situation & I think we can do it & REALLY put the pressure on them to re-think their horrible decision!

    Remember folks, bad PR is all it takes to get them to quickly reverse course. The second this goes public, there needs to be a public outcry, from Ex-Mormons & Mormons alike. We need to band together & keep these sisters safe from harm. We can’t protect all of the missionaries in danger, but this is one very obvious situation that needs to be exposed & corrected QUICKLY!

    I just discovered these facts late last night & I was horrified! I couldn’t believe what I was discovering. Of course it’s purposely being kept quiet from the mainstream, because they know how we’ll react. At least I hope that is how people will react.

    This post is to also call out the parents of the 3 sisters that are recklessly being sent back into South Africa. I know who one of the sisters is for sure & these facts are coming directly from her, first-hand. I will try to contact her parents personally. There is NO DOUBT that this is happening as we speak or has already happened, as they’ll be there THIS WEEK, FOR SURE!

    It also sounds like the sister missionary I know of, knows that South Africa is very dangerous for women, but that she doesn’t know the real reasons or the exact details of why the Sister missionaries were really pulled out in 2006.

    In other words, she, nor the other sisters or missionaries know anything about the sisters that were brutally robbed, attacked & gang raped for hours, at knife point & gun(the one  sister was shot in the stomach & unconscious while they raped her) along the side of a busy rode. Why haven’t they been told? Oh yeah, IT ISN’T FAITH PROMOTING, RIGHT TOMMY?!

    This is disgraceful! I also know FOR A FACT, that the MORmON Hierarchy pays A LOT of attention to what EX-Mormons are saying & exposing publicly & that they read my blogs, websites & listen to my podcasts. For example, just yesterday, I broke the AP(that was picked up by ABC, which I linked to) story yesterday about the 2 Mormon sister missionaries in Kosovo being attacked & beaten..10 days earlier and boom..all of the local press grabbed the story(it was literally breaking news on channel 2, KUTV here in Utah, about 45 minutes after I posted it!) & now it is EVERYWHERE.

    It was here first folks, before channel 2, 4, 5, 13, Salt Lake Tribune, Deseret News & the Standard Examiner picked it up. How is it that these major news sources have no clue until the AP mentions it & I break it wide open? I guess I should be an investigative reporter!

    I’m just glad the story got out through somebody, as the second I read it, I KNEW it had to be made public ASAP! I wanted to EXPOSE the CULT & FORCE them to admit what had happened, FINALLY & give us some type of statement. They of course wanted to cover it up for as long as possible, hopefully forever if they could pull it off.

    What’s so amazing to me, is the stupidity of MORmON Inc. They honestly believe that we’re living back in the 1830s or 1840s, when Joseph Smith could publicly lie about his polygamy/polyandry(serial adultery & child rape) & actually get away with it..well until the Nauvoo Expositor came out, which caused Joseph Smith to commit treason in having the printing presses destroyed! Oops!! That of course led to his imprisonment & death..not too smart there JOE!

    Of course this is now 2013 & we have a thing called “THE INTERNET”(which they can’t stop or shut down) & the stupid(thankfully) MORmON Hierarchy haven’t grasped that yet. They really are just that dumb & uneducated!

    So 2 sisters get brutally attacked & beaten(thrown down a flight of stairs & hit repeatedly on the head w/ a sharp instrument..one Elder, who wasn’t there, said flashlights, but I doubt that’s accurate with their head wounds that had to be stitched up) and they don’t think the story is gonna get out? REALLY?! They thought, for the last 10 days, that they could cover it up & keep it a secret? REALLY? Unfortunately for the Hierarchy & thankfully for the rest of the world, the terrible assholes who did it(part of a possible terrorist organization that hates the MORmON CULT too), were arrested & found to be those who had beaten the missionaries. Thankfully the AP mentioned it or we may have never known, unless someone involved leaked it & let us know.

    The other thing that really troubles me about this whole situation in Kosovo, with the missionaries, is that the news reports are saying that these 6 Albanians who were arrested, are part of a larger terrorist group, that also hates the Mormons. If that is true(and why would we doubt it’s truthfullness), why are there still Mormon missionaries in Kosovo, RIGHT NOW, as we speak, if there is ANY DOUBT to their safety? So the MORmON CULT Hierarchy doesn’t believe there’s any danger to the remaining missionaries, by possible OTHER members of this “larger organization” that weren’t arrested? Do you think they might be REALLY FUCKING PISSED NOW? If they hated them before, what must they feel now? THINK ABOUT IT!!

    They’re willing to roll those dice & risk the lives of those missionaries that are left there? OF COURSE THEY ARE, because they’re just that stupid & reckless & literally don’t give a damn if those missionaries die today. At least 13 times this year, a Mormon missionary has tragically died & each time, Thomas Monson & his 14 goons, just have the MORmON CULT Spokesman or spokeswoman(usually, the former KSL’s RUTH TODD) come out & read the same damn statement each time.

    THEY DON’T CARE FOLKS..GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS!! MISSIONARIES ARE JUST NUMBERS  & PAWNS IN THEIR LARGER MONEY GAME! AS LONG AS THE CASH FLOWS, MISSIONARIES CAN DIE ALL DAY LONG!!

     

    (Well, I’ve got a lot more detials & info to add to this post..not even close to being done & I still need to go over it before it’s finished…but I’ve gotta run..sorry for any typos & I’ll have to finish it later. I just wanted to get it posted now for everyone to see, especially the MORmON Hierarchy!! Please check back later for the finished product!)

     
  • Utahnite 12:02 pm on November 13, 2013 Permalink |
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    Mormon Missionaries, Sisters, Attacked And Beaten By Suspected Terrorists In PRISTINA, Kosovo On November 3, 2013! MORmON Hierarchy, KSL And Other Local Media Is 100% SILENT AGAIN!! 

    To leave (censored) comments on KSL, click here.

    First of all, the question that comes to mind, is what are Mormon Missionaries Doing in Kosovo? Right? Who even knew? Maybe only the die-hard MORmON CULTISTS or the missionary’s families? I’ve never heard of them being in Kosovo..only entering last year, in 2012, with 6 missionaries. Secondly, they get attacked by suspected terrorists(normally pretty vicious folks who don’t fuck around and have no mercy!) and NOBODY even knows about it until yesterday, thanks to the AP & now today on my site? No local news on this at all? Not even Jesus’ KSL? Well, of course not, as they hoped that they could let this “attack by suspected terrorists on

    Mormon Missionaries” just slide by with the debacle in the Philippines about to take place, where they once again, didn’t protect the missionaries that supposedly love so much, but also don’t care if they get “injured or killed.”

    Did the Hierarchy know? OF COURSE THEY DID! The better question is DID THEY CARE? The obvious answer to that one is OF COURSE NOT! They NEVER HAVE & NEVER WILL..i.e. THE PHILIPPINES!

    MP3 DOWNLOAD

    How bad was the attack? Was it Sisters or Elders? Was it just 2 missionaries or more? Were they beaten, shot, stabbed, raped? What exactly happened to them? How bad of shape are they in? Are they still there? Did they get the medical care needed or the typical “don’t go to the hospital, whatever you do & drink 7-up & eat some crackers..suck it up for Jesus BS!” Are they just like the sisters in South Africa who were robbed, gang raped at knife & gunpoint(one shot in the stomach) & plan to “finish their missions”, according to the asshole Mission President, who doesn’t give the slightest damn about their emotional, mental & physical scars?! Were their families even notified or will the AP story & my website be the first they’ve heard about it? I’m guessing that latter!

    The abuse of Mormon missionaries by putting them in harms way with no protection or help of any kind(but if they 100% obey the rules, Hinckley promised they’d never be harmed..hmm..all unworthy rule breakers, getting what they deserve then, right?!), in dangerous countries & places, MUST STOP!! Why do the rank & file MORmON Sheep, especially the parents of said missionaries just bow their heads & put up with this shit..when will THEY say ENOUGH?!!

    Every involved with the systematic abuse of missionaries, from the MORmON Hierarchy(ThomASS Monson) on down to the complicity of the missionary parents, who do nothing to protect their children, when even knowing what is happening, are at fault!!

    WAKE UP!!!!

     
    • Utahnite 10:57 pm on November 13, 2013 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well, thankfully, the local media finally covered this story ONLY AFTER I covered it & KSL was forced & shamed into covering it, as they had no choice. KSL is always late to report on anything not faith promoting about MORmONISM, as they hold out as long as they possibly can! The MORmON Hierarchy did everything they could to cover up this story for the last 10 days & hoped it would never come out! I made sure that it would, sooner than later. Somebody, eventually, would’ve noticed the AP story, I just beat everyone to the punch & forced everyone to acknowledge it, report & then deal with it right now, TODAY!

      It was 2 sister missionaries, who were beaten severely with a sharp object to the head & shoved down a flight of stairs. Pretty serious things, but let’s hope that nothing even more serious happened. They had to have their heads shaved & stitched up & they’re now recovering in the church mission home & YES, OF COURSE, brainwashed as they are..PLAN TO FINISH THEIR MISSIONS! If their parents had ANY SENSE..they’d demand they come home, NOW!

      Of course the MORmON leaders, like the Mission President or the MORmON Hierarchy, would NEVER do the right thing & send the sisters home to heal, honorably & thank them for their service already rendered. Why do the RIGHT THING, right Tommy boy?!

      You know, it’s been 8.5 years for me since leaving the damn cult & you’d think that I’d be less pissed off by now, but I’m actually MORE PISSED OFF, when I have to read & hear about the tragic & continual, systematic abuse of young Mormon missionaries by the MORmON Hierarchy, now as young as 18 & 19. They want them younger so that they are more naive, clueless & not even close to thinking for themselves. The older ones were starting to put shit together & WE CAN’T HAVE THAT, as they were losing control, which means loss of power & manipulation ability!

      I’ve added the KSL/Jesus’ video of this terrible attack!

  • Utahnite 12:13 am on October 31, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: , , audio, between the United States and Great Britain, Bible, , , , charlatan, , Class action lawsuit, , download, , , EX-Mormon Foundation, , ex-mormon radio, , , , , , exmormon podcasts, , , , , from June 1812, Gilbert J. Hunt, , , KATHLEEN JONES, , , , , life after mormonism, , , mormon podcasts, mormon radio, , mp3, October, , , Sidney Rigdon, , The Book of Mormon, , , The late war, , to February 1815, , ,   

    All Of The Audio For The 2013 Ex-Mormon Conference Is Now Available For Streaming Or Download Right Here Or Over In Ex-Mormon Radio! ENJOY! 

    Please visit EX-MORMON RADIO for the complete 2013 Ex-Mormon Conference page, which also includes everything posted below. The conference was great & I, as a fellow EXMO, wanted to personally thank everyone for their efforts & such great speeches. THANKS!!

    • Friday, October 18, 2013 Open Mic for Conference Attendees

    MP3 DOWNLOAD

    • RICHARD PACKHAM Special lunch-time session: “Freemasonry and the Endowment: A Demonstration of the Similarities”

    MP3 DOWNLOAD

    • Sunday, October 20, 2013 “You Wanted to Ask What?” — Open Q&A with a panel of Saturday’s speakers

    MP3 DOWNLOAD

    Featured Speakers and Participants

     
  • Utahnite 10:27 pm on October 28, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: , , , , , esposing mormons, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , The late war between the United States and Great Britain from June 1812 to February 1815, ,   

    Chris Johnson Speaking at the 2013 EXMORMON Conference – “How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism!”- Video & Audio..GREAT!! 

    For the complete Chris Johnson page, please visit my newest website, EX-MORMON RADIO(the most complete EXMO podcast/audio site on the Internet), which includes Chris’ complete video series along with his “I Am An EX-Mormon” video & all of his video/audio below from the EXMO Conference, all in one spot.

    http://askreality.com/

    http://www.youtube.com/user/askreality?feature=watch

    Hidden in Plain Sight(From the EXMO Conference..exposing the main source material for The Book of Mormon..AMAZING!)

    *Video & audio of Chris’ great EXMO Conference speech is posted below!

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    2013 – Chris Johnson – “How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism!”

    Published on Oct 25, 2013
    **There are a few technical issues with the video that need to be fixed- we hope to have an updated version uploaded by the end of the weekend (10/25/13)**

    To read “The late war, between the United States and Great Britain, from June 1812, to February 1815 : written in the ancient historical style” (1816) by Gilbert J. Hunt:

    https://archive.org/details/latewarbetween_00hunt

    To read “The First Book of Napoleon” (1809):

    https://archive.org/details/firstbooknapole00gruagoog

     

    Statements by Mormon Prophets & Apostles regarding the importance of The Book of Mormon & thus the church being true:

    Orson Pratt(original member of The Council of the Twelve Apostles) on The Book of Mormon:

    This book must be either true or false. If true, it is one of the most important messages ever sent from God . . . If false, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid impositions ever palmed upon the world; calculated to deceive and ruin millions . . . “The nature of the message in the Book of Mormon is such that, if true, no one can possibly be saved and reject it, if false, no one can possibly be saved and receive it. . . .

    “If, after a rigid examination, it be found an imposition, it should he extensively published to the world as such. The evidence and arguments upon which the imposture was detected should be clearly and logically stated, that those who have been sincerely, yet unfortunately, deceived may perceive the nature of the deception, and be reclaimed, and that those who continue to publish the delusion may be exposed and silenced, not by physical force, neither by persecutions, bare assertions, nor ridicule, but by strong and powerful arguments–by evidences adduced from scripture and reason . . .

    “But on the other hand, if investigations should prove the Book of Mormon true . . . the American and English nations should utterly reject both the Popish [i.e., Roman Catholic] and Protestant ministry, together with all the churches which have been built up by them or that have sprung from them, as being entirely destitute of authority.” (Orson Pratt, Works: Divine Authority of The Book of Mormon [Liverpool, 1851, pp. 1-2, as quoted in Wayne L. Cowdery, Howard A. Davis and Arthur Vanick, Who Really Wrote the Book of Mormon?: The Spalding Enigma [St. Louis, Missouri: Concordia Publishing House, 2005], p. 18)

    Now, let’s also reflect on the words of Jeffrey R. Holland, regarding the importance of The Book of Mormon:

    True or False(this talk is even better than “Safety for the Soul”)

    by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland(not a dodo!) of the Quorum of the Twelve

    Excerpted from a Church Educational System Religious Educators’ Symposium address given at Brigham Young University on August 9, 1994.

    Everything in the Church—everything—rises or falls on the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.

    Jeffrey R. Holland, “True or False,” New Era, June 1995, 64

    For the transcript of the ENTIRE above talk(“A Standard unto My People”), please click here.

    A good deal has been said about the authorship—and, therefore, the divine origins—of the Book of Mormon. But then there has always been a lot said about it ever since it first rolled off the old E. B. Grandin press in downtown Palmyra, New York, on the 26th of March, 1830.

    Let me quote a very powerful comment from President Ezra Taft Benson, who said, “The Book of Mormon is the keystone of [our] testimony. Just as the arch crumbles if the keystone is removed, so does all the Church stand or fall with the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. The enemies of the Church understand this clearly. This is why they go to such great lengths to try to disprove the Book of Mormon, for if it can be discredited, the Prophet Joseph Smith goes with it. So does our claim to priesthood keys, and revelation, and the restored Church. But in like manner, if the Book of Mormon be true—and millions have now testified that they have the witness of the Spirit that it is indeed true—then one must accept the claims of the Restoration and all that accompanies it.

    “Yes, the Book of Mormon is the keystone of our religion—the keystone of our testimony, the keystone of our doctrine, and the keystone in the witness of our Lord and Savior” (A Witness and a Warning, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1988, p. 19).

    To hear someone so remarkable say something so tremendously bold, so overwhelming in its implications, that everything in the Church—everything—rises or falls on the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and, by implication, the Prophet Joseph Smith’s account of how it came forth, can be a little breathtaking. It sounds like a “sudden death” proposition to me. Either the Book of Mormon is what the Prophet Joseph said it is or this Church and its founder are false, fraudulent, a deception from the first instance onward.

    Not everything in life is so black and white, but it seems the authenticity of the Book of Mormon and its keystone role in our belief is exactly that. Either Joseph Smith was the prophet he said he was, who, after seeing the Father and the Son, later beheld the angel Moroni, repeatedly heard counsel from his lips, eventually receiving at his hands a set of ancient gold plates which he then translated according to the gift and power of God—or else he did not. And if he did not, in the spirit of President Benson’s comment, he is not entitled to retain even the reputation of New England folk hero or well-meaning young man or writer of remarkable fiction. No, and he is not entitled to be considered a great teacher or a quintessential American prophet or the creator of great wisdom literature. If he lied about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, he is certainly none of those.

    I feel about this as C. S. Lewis once said about the divinity of Christ: “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: [that is,] ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to” (Mere Christianity, New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1952, pp. 40–41).

    I am suggesting that we make exactly that same kind of do-or-die, bold assertion about the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ and the divine origins of the Book of Mormon. We have to. Reason and rightness require it. Accept Joseph Smith as a prophet and the book as the miraculously revealed and revered word of the Lord it is or else consign both man and book to Hades for the devastating deception of it all, but let’s not have any bizarre middle ground about the wonderful contours of a young boy’s imagination or his remarkable facility for turning a literary phrase. That is an unacceptable position to take—morally, literarily, historically, or theologically.

    As the word of God has always been—and I testify again that is purely and simply and precisely what the Book of Mormon is—this record is “quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow” (D&C 6:2). The Book of Mormon is that quick and it is that powerful for us. And it certainly is that sharp. Nothing in our history and nothing in our message cuts to the chase faster than our uncompromising declaration that the Book of Mormon is the word of God. On this issue we draw a line in the sand.

    May I make it very clear where I stand regarding Joseph Smith, a stance taken because of the Book of Mormon. I testify out of the certainty of my soul that Joseph Smith entertained an angel and received at his hand an ancient set of gold plates. I testify of that as surely as if I had, with the three witnesses, seen the angel Moroni or, with the three and the eight witnesses, seen and handled the plates.

    It was the Book of Mormon that changed my life, told me the gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored, and immersed me in the Church, heart and soul. I hold it in a category sacred to me among all the world’s literature. It stands preeminent in my intellectual and spiritual life, the classic of all classics, a reaffirmation of the Holy Bible, a voice from the dust, a witness for Christ, the word of the Lord unto salvation.

    Now, lets bring it home with the former, amazing, “only one earring in each ear”, drum roll please, Prophet of the whole earth, for Jesus Christ, the special witness of Jesus Christ & the man who communed with Jehovah, but couldn’t predict Tsunami’s or Hurricanes(but can give Larry King his genealogy  the night before 300,000 people died, laughing), Gordon B. Hinckley:

    Here are the quotes. This first one is from the Gordon B. Hinckley speech, “The Marvelous Foundation of Our Faith,” Ensign, Nov. 2002, 78:

    We declare without equivocation that God the Father and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, appeared in person to the boy Joseph Smith.

    When I was interviewed by Mike Wallace on the 60 Minutes program, he asked me if I actually believed that. I replied, “Yes, sir. That’s the miracle of it.”

    That is the way I feel about it. Our whole strength rests on the validity of that vision. It either occurred or it did not occur. If it did not, then this work is a fraud. If it did, then it is the most important and wonderful work under the heavens.

    Now from Gordon B. Hinckley’s speech, “Loyalty,” Ensign, May 2003, 58

    Now may I say a word concerning loyalty to the Church.

    We see much indifference. There are those who say, “The Church won’t dictate to me how to think about this, that, or the other, or how to live my life.”

    No, I reply, the Church will not dictate to any man how he should think or what he should do. The Church will point out the way and invite every member to live the gospel and enjoy the blessings that come of such living. The Church will not dictate to any man, but it will counsel, it will persuade, it will urge, and it will expect loyalty from those who profess membership therein.

    When I was a university student, I said to my father on one occasion that I felt the General Authorities had overstepped their prerogatives when they advocated a certain thing. He was a very wise and good man. He said, “The President of the Church has instructed us, and I sustain him as prophet, seer, and Revelator and intend to follow his counsel.”


    (Keep in mind now that he is speaking of people being obedient to him, Gordon B. Hinckley, who is now the Mormon Prophet, Seer and Revelator. So he is telling people to be obey him and anything that he might say. That my friends is a cult leader, plain and simple!!)

    Then he said:

    Each of us has to face the matter—either the Church is true, or it is a fraud. There is no middle ground. It is the Church and kingdom of God, or it is nothing.

    In 2007, in PBS’ “The Mormons”, Hinckley was asked about his above statements & he doubled down:

    Our film [features] a very strong statement you made. You are talking about the foundational story of Mormonism and why it must be taken literally, that Joseph Smith had the vision he described and obtained the plates the way he did. You said there is no middle ground. Other churches are approaching their foundational stories and turning them into metaphor at times and going perhaps for the essence of the meaning. But that isn’t true for you or for this church. I’m wondering if you can develop that idea: Why can’t there be a middle ground in the way those foundational stories are understood?

    Hinckley: “Well, it’s either true or false. If it’s false, we’re engaged in a GREAT FRAUD. If it’s true, it’s the most important thing in the world. Now, that’s the whole picture. It is either right or wrong, true or false, fraudulent or true.”

    In Gordon B. Hinkley’s, “My Testimony,” Ensign, Nov. 1993, 51, he arrogantly & disrespectfully said the following regarding critics of the First Vision:

    I thank my Father in Heaven for the testimony I have of the reality of the First Vision. I have stood among the trees where Joseph knelt as a boy, and heard the whisperings of the Spirit that it happened as he said it happened. I have read the words of critics, who from 1820 until now have tried to destroy the validity of that account. They have made much of the fact that there were several versions and that the account as we now have it was not written until 1838. So what?

     
  • Utahnite 4:46 pm on October 18, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: 19, , , , Conference Chair, , , , , , , EXMO Foundation Conference, , , , EXMORMON Foundation Conference, I am an ex-Mormon, , lifeaftermormonism.net, , October 18, , , , , , VP Exmormon Foundation and KATHLEEN JONES   

    Watch the 2013 EXMORMON Foundation Conference LIVE this weekend right here or on EX-MORMON Radio!!(Live streaming video by Ustream Conference) 



    Live streaming video by Ustream
    Or you can watch it LIVE on my newest site: http://exmormonradio.com/ex-mormon-conference-live-2013/

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    Conference Program

    Friday, October 18, 2013

    (All activities in ballroom unless otherwise noted)

    • 4:30-6:30PM Registration, dinner on your own
    • 6:30-7:30PM Social Hour, Cash Bar
    • 7:30-8:00PM Welcome — SUE EMMETT, Conference Chair, VP Exmormon Foundation and KATHLEEN JONES, President, Exmormon Foundation
    • 8:00-10:00PM Open Mic for Conference Attendees
    • 10:00-1:00AM Socializing/Hospitality Room

    Saturday, October 19, 2013

    • 9:00-10:15AM MICAH MCALLISTER — “Exit Strategy: Leaving Mormonism with your Dignity and Integrity Intact”
    • 10:30-12:30PM D. WILLIAM JOHNSON — “YouTube Changed My Life: Filming ‘I Am an Ex-Mormon Videos'”. Panel Discussion with Videographer and His Video Subjects.
    • 12:30-2:00PM RICHARD PACKHAM: Special lunch-time session: “Freemasonry and the Endowment: A Demonstration of the Similarities” (Pre-ordered Box lunches are available for those attending) LUNCH ON YOUR OWN
    • 2:00-3:45PM RICHARD PACKHAM — “Truth Will Prevail: All About Proof, Evidence, Fallacies and Lies”
    • 4:00-5:30PM CHRIS JOHNSON — “How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism”
    • 6:30-7:30PM Social Hour, Cash Bar
    • 7:30-8:15PM Dinner
    • 8:15-9:30PM KAY BURNINGHAM — “Are Mormon Leaders Above the Law? Fraud in the Inducement and Mormonism: An Historic and Contemporary Look”
    • 9:30PM-1:00AM Socializing/Hospitality Room

    Sunday, October 20, 2013

    • 9:30AM-12:00 Noon “You Wanted to Ask What?” — Open Q&A with a panel of Saturday’s speakers

    Featured Speakers and Participants

     
  • Utahnite 4:10 pm on October 18, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: , Boy Scout Leaders, church court, Convicted felons, criminal charges, , , Dave Hall, Dylan Taylor, excommunication, felons 170 million years old, , Glenn Taylor, Goblin Valley State Park, , , , , , The Boy Scouts of America, , The issue is we did it, , Youth Leaders   

    Ancient Rock in Utah’s Goblin Valley Destroyed By Giddy Trio of Mormon Boy Scout/Youth Leaders Now Facing Possible Felonies!(Dave Hall, Glenn Taylor, Dylan Taylor) 

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2013/10/18/boy-scout-leaders-destroy-rock-goblin-valley/3008005/

     
  • Utahnite 1:35 pm on October 15, 2013 Permalink |
    Tags: , Arcadia mission, Azusa, Ballard, Bike, bike accident, Bishop Jeffery Davis, , Charlotte, dies, Elder Andrew Page, it doesn't matter if missionaries are injured or killed, , , , missionary deaths, , Newburgh street, North Carolina, ,   

    Elder Andrew Page Tragically Dies In A Bike Accident In The California Arcadia Mission On October 9, 2013. He Was Only 18 Years Old. At Least The13th Mormon Missionary To Tragically Die This Year! 

    Andrew’s personal mission blog(lots of great pictures, including the video of when he received his mission call.)

    Andrew’s last post, posted on October 9, 2013

     The tragic accident took place around 4:00 P.M. Elder Page was hit while riding on Newburgh Street in Azusa, California. According to his companion, the two were on bicycles and had missed the turn where they were headed. They were turning around when Elder Page stopped for a minute and adjusted his pants leg, then whipped his bike around without looking, after which he was struck by a car.

    Elder Page was wearing a helmet when the car hit him. The officer on the scene ruled Page’s death an accident. Elder Page was taken by medical helicopter in critical condition to a nearby trauma center with major injuries, including head trauma, after which he passed away at 10 P.M. The Biking In LA blog notes that Elder Page’s fatality is the 69th bicycling fatality in Southern California this year, and the 29th in Los Angeles County, compared to 22 in the county for all of last year.

    The family is asking that donations be sent directly to their Mormon Bishop, but I’d recommend sending the money directly to them, in case they need it personally. They can always decide for themselves if they need it or they can give it to the Bishop themselves. I don’t know if the church has helped them in anyway(they usually don’t in these situations, thus families have to beg for help to even pay for the funeral, to add insult to injury!), with the transportation or funeral expenses, but it appears they might have, thus why they’re asking for ALL donations to be sent to the Bishop directly, to reimburse him/the church.

    Maybe the family paid for it themselves but are just asking for any donations by those that want to help out, be sent to the church, because the family doesn’t need it & of course, are looking out for the POOR Mormon church, that fired all their janitors but can spend $5 BILLION on a NON-PROFIT mall for Jesus & is building a luxury Marriott resort in Hawaii, but can’t pay for missionaries expenses alive or dead. It’s truly a tragedy!!

    If the Mormon Hierarchy paid the full cost for EVERY missionary(and gave them ALL good living conditions with uncontaminated food & water..gee, that’d be nice!), it could just come out of their petty cash & would barely dent their bottom line. But why do it when the programmed sheep will pay for it all themselves & they don’t have to?!!

     
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